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30 April 2012 @ 07:44 am
Support our troops.  
Vietnam war vet just left the mental health hospital. He has no place to go, so in a week or two, he is planning to "do something crazy," so they'll send him back, giving him a place to stay and regular meals. Everytime he goes, he is "medicated" for conditions he doesn't actually have. (He spits them out after he leaves the line.)

He saw me while I was waiting for the California bus on my way to work this morning and was very excited to talk to me as he rarely finds people willing to listen to his stories. He asked for no money, just for an ear. He was very nice.

I feel empty and ashamed.

Support our troops.

Protest senseless, imperialistic war.
Booskaboo, BB <3<3<3!!!fig_aruna on May 24th, 2012 12:52 am (UTC)
I can't bring myself to really respond to this right now, but I think this is the dealbreaker....
phantomwriter05phantomwriter05 on May 24th, 2012 01:11 am (UTC)
I understand that you don't like to hear that ... I don't take pleasure in telling people that, I don't like remembering that. I still have nightmares about those pictures I looked over.

But that's the hard truth.

If me telling you what happened on the ground what really happened on the ground, not the BS professors feed everyone, if that's a deal breaker, I'm sorry.

But I do not like people saying things like that, because to me it sounds like those poor children were butchered rightiously.

If this is the end, than good bye figgs.

I've always cared about your well being. But I don't lie.

Booskaboo, BB <3<3<3!!!fig_aruna on May 24th, 2012 03:45 am (UTC)
It is the end, but I have this to say. You've written a paper, yes, but so have I, but 100x more meaningful than that is that I come from a war refugee family who had people fighting on both sides. I didn't just read about the atrocities. I was told directly from survivors who got shot, bombed, eviscerated, impaled, raped, burned alive, as well as how, where, and when. I wish I didn't, but I know ALL the details.

So, trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

The VC killed children, but so did the Republic. Of course, the murders committed by the Republic (Vietnam's 1% at the time) aren't as well known because that doesn't serve America's interest to acknowledge or discuss. The VC's atrocities did not come out of no where.

No one's innocent. Blood begets blood, whatever the place, whenever the time. Ignoring this truth is simple bigotry: painting one side as evil and the other angelic, and this almost always happens in order to justify some arbitrary political philosophy.

I know you will always care about my well-being, and I say and mean the same, Matt. You're a good guy, but I wish you could, quite honestly, be less "selfish" and work harder to see the other side because that side represents real human beings who do exist and whose lives and deaths also matter.
phantomwriter05: Batmanphantomwriter05 on May 24th, 2012 04:31 am (UTC)
The VC were animals without ethics or morals.

The minute you murder children, you have lost me, I don't hold you responsible for any family members actions, But you'll never convince me other wise that there is two sides to this. only Animals kill without a thought or morals. Maybe you can sit here and question countries morals during a war. But tell me when your enemy dresses like innocent people in order to hide like cowards how do you tell the difference?

Tell me, when people are murder in wholesale by these people, and you're sent there to help, how does one justify imperilistic war? Does it make it right to cut off children's arms for rightious anger? To intimidate people with murder, for a cause of "equality"

They're animals, every single one of them, I don't mourn them, I don't pity them, because they're not Human.

I went into my research objectively, and it was alot of research. I know of the coruption of the Republic, it's why it failed to defend itself. But other than eachother, the murders you speak of were Vietcong operatives, confirmed through jawing and unrepent confession.

You say I'm selfish, and maybe it's true. The difference is I have Principles, I don't break them, but I'm not militant, I don't condone things when they're wrong, when it's extremist. But it seems to me that when someone does something that you agree with, but it's too the extreme you justify it. I may be selfish, but you have no principles, you have beliefs, but no sense of limits of when someone crosses a line.

I'm not intolerent but I'm firm in my beliefs and limits, you are simply someone who victimizes everything and settles for any sort of "Rightous answer" in response to anything you see as a disagreement. Everyone is an enemy to you if they don't side with you, even if you say "friendship" and "Buds"

What I took as a simple disagreement on basic things, no harm, no foul, you turned into an all out "This is the breaking point" and who needs that?

Over the years I've seen things on this blog that offends me, but I'm just like "Oh figs ... Lesigh" but the minute I've disagreed with you, you've turned on the timer, and kept score.

I don't need it, figs ... Honestly I don't.

I've told you I don't want to give you a complex over this stuff, you post what you want, and I honestly thought we were to a point were we could talk about this stuff. But I made the enemy list, didn't I?

Oh well, you have other friends here and I have a few.

Enjoy the bomb throwing ... I'll be happier away from it.
Booskaboo, BB <3<3<3!!!fig_aruna on May 24th, 2012 02:00 pm (UTC)
Whoa. Things got real personal and vindictive all of a sudden, and that saddens me a great deal...
Booskaboo, BB <3<3<3!!!fig_aruna on May 24th, 2012 02:02 pm (UTC)
that saddens me a great deal...

And I mean that wholeheartedly.